{"id":267,"date":"2012-09-07T17:22:41","date_gmt":"2012-09-07T17:22:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/127.0.0.1\/~sfrey\/wordpress\/?p=267"},"modified":"2018-07-24T17:08:07","modified_gmt":"2018-07-24T17:08:07","slug":"percentile-listings-for-ten-go-and-chess-federations-and-their-systems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/enfascination.com\/weblog\/post\/267","title":{"rendered":"Percentile listings for ten Go and Chess Federations and their systems"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/enfascination.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/120830a1.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/enfascination.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/120830a1.jpeg\" alt=\"\" title=\"120830a\" width=\"250\" height=\"160\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-269\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I spent way too long trying to find percentile ranks for FIDE ELO scores (international professional chess players).  Percentiles exists for USCF (USA-ranked Chess players; http:\/\/archive.uschess.org\/ratings\/ratedist.php) but not FIDE, which is different, and worth knowing, and worth being able to map.  So I just did it myself.  In the process I got percentile equivalences for many other systems and game Federations. I used this data: http:\/\/ratings.fide.com\/download.phtml<br \/>\nand got the percentiles in the far right hand column.<\/p>\n<p>Disclaimer: I pulled some tricks, this is all approximate, there are translations of translations of equivalences, but this is what we&#8217;ve got.  Everyone who has pulled any of these numbers knows that they don&#8217;t really mean what they say as precisely as they aspire to mean what they say.  Also, don&#8217;t interpret these as equivalences, for example, FIDE is more professional than USCF, so the worst players in it are way way better than the worst in USCF.<\/p>\n<table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=1170 style='border-collapse:\n collapse;table-layout:fixed;width:1170pt'><\/p>\n<tr height=16 style='height:16.0pt'>\n<td height=16 class=xl65 style='height:16.0pt'>\n  <meta charset=utf-8><br \/>\n  Percentile<\/td>\n<td class=xl65>AGA<\/td>\n<td class=xl65>KGS<\/td>\n<td class=xl65>USCF<\/td>\n<td class=xl65>EGF<\/td>\n<td class=xl65>UCSF2<\/td>\n<td class=xl65>EGF kyu\/dan&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td class=xl65>Korean kyu\/dan&nbsp; <\/td>\n<td class=xl65>Japan kyu\/dan&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td class=xl65>A(ussie)CF&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td class=xl65>FIDE<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>1%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-34.61<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-24.26<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >444<\/td>\n<td class=xl67>100<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>20 k<\/td>\n<td>22k<span style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/td>\n<td>17+ k<\/td>\n<td >100<\/td>\n<td >1319<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>2%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-32.58<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-22.3<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >531<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >100<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>20 k<\/td>\n<td>22 k<\/td>\n<td>17+ k<\/td>\n<td >200<\/td>\n<td >1385<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>5%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-27.69<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-19.2<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >663<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >153<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >100<\/td>\n<td>20 k<\/td>\n<td>22 k<\/td>\n<td>17 k<\/td>\n<td >300<\/td>\n<td >1494<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>10%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-23.47<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-15.36<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >793<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >456<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>16 k<\/td>\n<td>18 k<\/td>\n<td>13 k<\/td>\n<td >600<\/td>\n<td >1596<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>20%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-18.54<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-11.26<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >964<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >953<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >500<\/td>\n<td>12 k<\/td>\n<td>13 k<\/td>\n<td>9 k<\/td>\n<td >900<\/td>\n<td >1723<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>30%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-13.91<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-8.94<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1122<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1200<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>9 k<\/td>\n<td>10 k<\/td>\n<td>6 k<\/td>\n<td >1100<\/td>\n<td >1815<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>40%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-9.9<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-7.18<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1269<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1387<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>7 k<\/td>\n<td>8 k<\/td>\n<td>4 k<\/td>\n<td >1300<\/td>\n<td >1890<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>50%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-7.1<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-5.65<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1411<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1557<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1000<\/td>\n<td>6 k<\/td>\n<td>7 k<\/td>\n<td>3 k<\/td>\n<td >1400<\/td>\n<td >1958<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>60%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-4.59<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-4.19<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1538<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1709<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>4 k<\/td>\n<td>5 k<\/td>\n<td>1 k<\/td>\n<td >1500<\/td>\n<td >2021<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>70%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-1.85<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-2.73<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1667<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1884<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3 k<\/td>\n<td>4 k<\/td>\n<td>1 d<\/td>\n<td >1600<\/td>\n<td >2081<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>80%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2.1<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >-1.28<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1807<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2039<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1500<\/td>\n<td>1 k<\/td>\n<td>2 k<\/td>\n<td>3 d<\/td>\n<td >1800<\/td>\n<td >2147<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>90%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >4.71<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2.52<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1990<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2217<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1800<\/td>\n<td>2 d<\/td>\n<td>1 d<\/td>\n<td>4 d<\/td>\n<td >1900<\/td>\n<td >2236<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>95%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >6.12<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >3.88<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2124<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2339<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >1900<\/td>\n<td>3 d<\/td>\n<td>2 d<\/td>\n<td>5 d<\/td>\n<td >2100<\/td>\n<td >2308<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>98%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >7.41<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >5.29<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2265<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2460<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2100<\/td>\n<td>4 d<\/td>\n<td>3 d<\/td>\n<td>5 d<\/td>\n<td >2200<\/td>\n<td >2398<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl66  style='height:15.0pt'>99%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >8.15<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >6.09<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2357<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2536<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2200<\/td>\n<td>5 d<\/td>\n<td>4 d<\/td>\n<td>6 d<\/td>\n<td >2300<\/td>\n<td >2454<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl68  style='height:15.0pt'>99.50%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >8.7<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >7.2<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2470<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2604<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2300<\/td>\n<td>6 d<\/td>\n<td>5 d<\/td>\n<td>6 d<\/td>\n<td >2400<\/td>\n<td >2516<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl68  style='height:15.0pt'>99.90%<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >9.64<\/td>\n<td class=xl67>pro<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2643<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2747<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2500<\/td>\n<td class=xl69>3p<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td >2500<\/td>\n<td >2625<\/td>\n<td colspan=7 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt;background-position:initial initial;\n  background-repeat:initial initial'><\/p>\n<td height=15 class=xl67 style='height:15.0pt'>top<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >10.12<\/td>\n<td class=xl67>9p<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2789<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2809<\/td>\n<td class=xl67 >2700<\/td>\n<td>5p<\/td>\n<td colspan=11 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=15 style='height:15.0pt'>\n<td height=15 style='height:15.0pt'>source<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?RatingHistogramComparisons\">1<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?RatingHistogramComparisons\">1<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?RatingHistogramComparisons\">1<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?RatingHistogramComparisons\">1<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/archive.uschess.org\/ratings\/ratedist.php\">2<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?FIDETitlesAndEGFGoRatings\">3<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?RankWorldwideComparison\">4<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?RankWorldwideComparison\">4<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.auschess.org.au\/ratings\/acfrate.htm\">5<\/a><\/td>\n<td colspan=4 style='mso-ignore:colspan'>me, with <a href=\"http:\/\/ratings.fide.com\/download.phtml\">6<\/a><\/td>\n<td colspan=4 style='mso-ignore:colspan'><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>All useful links while I was doing this:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?FIDETitlesAndEGFGoRatings<\/li>\n<li>http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?RatingHistogramComparisons<\/li>\n<li>http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?FIDETitlesAndEGFGoRatings<\/li>\n<li>http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?EloRating<\/li>\n<li>http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?GoR<\/li>\n<li>http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?topic=2550 (very bottom)<\/li>\n<li>http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Go_ranks_and_ratings<\/li>\n<li>http:\/\/www.europeangodatabase.eu\/EGD\/EGF_rating_system.php<\/li>\n<li>http:\/\/ratings.fide.com\/download.phtml<\/li>\n<li>http:\/\/senseis.xmp.net\/?RankWorldwideComparison<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Another note: ELO is a &#8220;rating,&#8221; while dan\/kyu is a &#8220;ranking.&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Related Posts generic via filter on 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Percentiles exists for USCF (USA-ranked Chess players; http:\/\/archive.uschess.org\/ratings\/ratedist.php) but not FIDE, which is different, and worth knowing, and worth being able to map. So I just did it myself. 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