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		<title>Seth at 06:07, 12 February 2009</title>
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		<title>Seth at 22:13, 11 November 2008</title>
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				<updated>2008-11-11T22:13:10Z</updated>
		
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Given a foundation just up to calc, I prescribe the following&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Given a foundation just up to calc, I prescribe the following&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;four-unit plan to Catching &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Jillian &lt;/del&gt;Up.&amp;#160; The goal is to give you the&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;four-unit plan to Catching &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;You &lt;/ins&gt;Up.&amp;#160; The goal is to give you the&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;fairly conventional ladder up to taking courses with proofs. That is&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;fairly conventional ladder up to taking courses with proofs. That is&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;when you really start seeing the beauty of mathematics, and when&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;when you really start seeing the beauty of mathematics, and when&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Seth at 22:11, 11 November 2008</title>
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				<updated>2008-11-11T22:11:58Z</updated>
		
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I meet many people who stopped paying attention in Math, anywhere between 4th and 12th grade and, years later, got their interest piqued again.  This happened to me too, and I know the feeling that it is too late.  And I know that it isn't, particularly with the resources of the web.  I'm posting an email I wrote to a friend.  It is a post-calculus curriculum.  If you made it as far as 11th grade before fading out, you can start here.  You'll pick up the trig again as a result of getting back in, sort of piecemeal, the rest you can get guided through in the courses.  This is more of a roadmap through MIT's OCW.  everything is there: HW, tests, lectures, slides, readings (or books to buy) and answers to all the HW and tests.  If you haven't made it as far as calc but want a roadmap through everything up to it, let me know and I'll put something together.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here is the letter:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
Lucky you, OCW not only has a complete linear algebra class, but it&lt;br /&gt;
has full video lectures AND it is taught by the amazing Gilbert&lt;br /&gt;
Strang.  He is the Mr. Roger's of Linear algebra.  I took Numerical&lt;br /&gt;
Methods with him at MIT and he started the course off talking about&lt;br /&gt;
his 4 favorite matrices.  When I was taking linear algebra at&lt;br /&gt;
Berkeley, having never even heard of the guy, friends were watching&lt;br /&gt;
these lectures to help them understand what was going on in the local&lt;br /&gt;
class which was taught entirely differently.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Watching the lectures will be nice enough, but to really benefit from&lt;br /&gt;
this stuff, you should do the HW&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mathematics/18-06Spring-2005/CourseHome/index.htm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are all the math class, with all the All Class on the left sidebar.&lt;br /&gt;
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mathematics/index.htm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is lucky that you learned, back in the day, 'everything up to'&lt;br /&gt;
calculus, because there isn't really a one stop shop for full&lt;br /&gt;
pre-calculus courses.  MIT assumes precalc and all that trig.  Though&lt;br /&gt;
you have likely forgotten your trig and a bunch of your algebra, it&lt;br /&gt;
won't be prohibitive to pick up again, and you can ask me to clarify&lt;br /&gt;
steps, and the internet Does have all the bits and pieces scattered&lt;br /&gt;
about.  http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ is a great resource.  Wolfram is&lt;br /&gt;
an important egomaniac who has done some cool stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Given a foundation just up to calc, I prescribe the following&lt;br /&gt;
four-unit plan to Catching Jillian Up.  The goal is to give you the&lt;br /&gt;
fairly conventional ladder up to taking courses with proofs. That is&lt;br /&gt;
when you really start seeing the beauty of mathematics, and when&lt;br /&gt;
equations stop having numbers in them.  The first three units form a&lt;br /&gt;
sort of bottle neck, with intertwined prereqs, after that, you can&lt;br /&gt;
branch off in all kinds of directions: more applied or more abstract&lt;br /&gt;
or more fun.  If you want to skip straight to courses with proofs, you&lt;br /&gt;
can do that, just let me know and I'll revise this to take out all the&lt;br /&gt;
courses that use numbers in their equations, though you should give&lt;br /&gt;
this a try.  If you want a Unit 0, just to get you psyched and ease&lt;br /&gt;
you in, take 18.781     Theory of Numbers .  Number Theory was my favorite&lt;br /&gt;
math.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unit 1&lt;br /&gt;
18.01   Single Variable Calculus (or 18.013)&lt;br /&gt;
18.06   Linear Algebra&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unit 2&lt;br /&gt;
18.02   Multivariable Calculus&lt;br /&gt;
18.03   Differential Equations&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unit 3&lt;br /&gt;
18.05   Introduction to Probability and Statistics&lt;br /&gt;
18.100A Analysis I&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unit 4&lt;br /&gt;
pretty much whatever you'd like.  Everything below is in math, but&lt;br /&gt;
from here you can learn Real Physics and Engineering of all kinds.&lt;br /&gt;
Physics tends to start as three courses: Classical Mechanics, E&amp;amp;M&lt;br /&gt;
(electricity and magnetism) and then Quantum (which MIT teaches&lt;br /&gt;
concurrently with statistical mechanics, which is excellent).  None of&lt;br /&gt;
these requires all of the above prereqs, but just the process of doing&lt;br /&gt;
them all is great preparation for all of these, and, importantly, all&lt;br /&gt;
of the above are considered a minimal foundation (though I haven't&lt;br /&gt;
taken analysis and have never had a proper DE (Diff Eq)(differential&lt;br /&gt;
equations) course.&lt;br /&gt;
Recommendations:&lt;br /&gt;
18.781  Theory of Numbers (Great!!)&lt;br /&gt;
18.04   Complex Variables with Applications&lt;br /&gt;
18.100B Analysis I&lt;br /&gt;
18.152  Introduction to Partial Differential Equations&lt;br /&gt;
18.353J Nonlinear Dynamics I: Chaos&lt;br /&gt;
18.901  Introduction to Topology&lt;br /&gt;
18.950  Differential Geometry&lt;br /&gt;
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