Sharing some recent podcast appearances here, one called Governance Futures another called Education Futures.
“Education for the stewardship of the commons” on the Education Futures podcast
I was on the Education Futures podcast talking about AI and Education for the stewardship of the commons
Here’s the blurb host Svenia Busson published with the episode
“AI is stripping away the superficial parts of education and forcing us to ask why we’re learning in the first place.”
Prof. Seth Frey
A new episode of Education Futures is out. 🎉
I recorded this conversation with Seth Frey, professor at University of California, Davis, at the Learning Planet Institute in Paris, and it stayed with me. This episode is not about banning or embracing AI.
It’s about re-centering education on agency, responsibility, and collective capacity, and asking what kind of people we need to cultivate before deciding what role AI should play.
We talk about:
Why AI often becomes a substitute for learning, not a support for it
The crucial difference between formative and summative uses of AI
Why peer-to-peer learning (hello, WAP – We are Peers, pioneering peer learning 👋) changes how students use AI
Why meetings, dialogue, and facilitation are learned skills, not inefficiencies
And why education should focus on stewardship of the commons: learning how to run things together, responsibly.
Fascinating conversation, thanks again Prof. Seth Frey for the inspiration ✨
Listen to Seth on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/fr/podcast/education-futures/id1847420474, Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5yBXjiWMKEYdIE9S4iJDKR?si=0ab95c3fdf0f4197 or Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-I8_gmJULE
“Scaling Local: Culture, Decentralization, and the Science of Governance” on Governance Futures podcast
I also contributed to Governance Futures podcast with my colleagues Eugene Leventhal and Jamilya Kamalova, to talk about decentralization and the idea of scaling smallness.
